[Dojo-interest] Dojo/Qooxdoo/Rico
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Sebastian Wernerinfo at sebastian-werner.net
Thu Jul 7 11:19:46 PDT 2005
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Alex Russell schrieb:> I haven‘t looked at qooxdoo for a month or two but we also have several > other notable (and to my mind, tremendously important) features which > qooxdoo as yet doesn‘t:> > 1.) a package and build system that ensures that you only get what you > need (the distribution file for qooxdoo is 392K, dojo can be as little > as 10K, depending on the profile you build against)There is a new build script in qooxdoo, too, that can handle these things including the respect of dependencies. With this new script you can down-scale a typical qooxdoo gui script to 200K. And a core qooxdoo script to 50K. qooxdoo‘s target are GUI‘s and so it‘s ok to load 300K or more. If you pipe this to gzip/deflate on server side it‘s only 30-50K and should be ok this way.> 2.) using widgets from markup. Dojo lets you declare your widgets in > your pages by adding extra attributes to standard HTML so you don‘t > have to write lengthy script blocks or pack JS data structures to build > and place widgets.We have used this approach in our previous non-opensource library. In our implementation we have detected the boundaries at this time we want to have full control about the layout. This is not so easy possible if you want to transform/extend existing HTML code, I think. But your dojo guys may have implement this in a better way as we before.> 3.) a unified event system (AOP-style)qooxdoo includes a event interface, too. Also a focus- and selection- handling manager.> 4.) fast widget prototyping and customization in markup> 5.) animations and effectsthese both are not included in qooxdoo.Best regards,Sebastian> > Regards> > On Thursday 07 July 2005 6:29 am, Sebastian Werner wrote:> >>Yes, qooxdoo has no interface to use iframes for data communication.>>dojo has more feature in these parts, I think.>>>>Sebastian>>>>Eelco Hillenius schrieb:>>>>>My hunch is that Dojo is more generic in handling ‘ajax‘. Qooxdoo>>>uses XmlHttpRequest, while Dojo uses internal frames for browsers>>>that don‘t support XmlHttpRequest. Could someone confirm whether>>>this statement is true?>>>>>>Eelco>>>>>>Cameron Shorter wrote:>>>>>>>Has anyone done a comparison of Qooxdoo and Dojo?>>>>If so, is there any way to bring the best of these two projects>>>>together?>>>>>>>>It seems Dojo is strong on the backend, and Qooxdoo is strong with>>>>widget rendering.>>>>>>_______________________________________________>>>Dojo-interest mailing list>>>Dojo-interest at dojotoolkit.org>>>http://dojotoolkit.org/mailman/listinfo/dojo-interest>>>>_______________________________________________>>Dojo-interest mailing list>>Dojo-interest at dojotoolkit.org>>http://dojotoolkit.org/mailman/listinfo/dojo-interest> >
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Alex Russell schrieb:> I haven‘t looked at qooxdoo for a month or two but we also have several > other notable (and to my mind, tremendously important) features which > qooxdoo as yet doesn‘t:> > 1.) a package and build system that ensures that you only get what you > need (the distribution file for qooxdoo is 392K, dojo can be as little > as 10K, depending on the profile you build against)There is a new build script in qooxdoo, too, that can handle these things including the respect of dependencies. With this new script you can down-scale a typical qooxdoo gui script to 200K. And a core qooxdoo script to 50K. qooxdoo‘s target are GUI‘s and so it‘s ok to load 300K or more. If you pipe this to gzip/deflate on server side it‘s only 30-50K and should be ok this way.> 2.) using widgets from markup. Dojo lets you declare your widgets in > your pages by adding extra attributes to standard HTML so you don‘t > have to write lengthy script blocks or pack JS data structures to build > and place widgets.We have used this approach in our previous non-opensource library. In our implementation we have detected the boundaries at this time we want to have full control about the layout. This is not so easy possible if you want to transform/extend existing HTML code, I think. But your dojo guys may have implement this in a better way as we before.> 3.) a unified event system (AOP-style)qooxdoo includes a event interface, too. Also a focus- and selection- handling manager.> 4.) fast widget prototyping and customization in markup> 5.) animations and effectsthese both are not included in qooxdoo.Best regards,Sebastian> > Regards> > On Thursday 07 July 2005 6:29 am, Sebastian Werner wrote:> >>Yes, qooxdoo has no interface to use iframes for data communication.>>dojo has more feature in these parts, I think.>>>>Sebastian>>>>Eelco Hillenius schrieb:>>>>>My hunch is that Dojo is more generic in handling ‘ajax‘. Qooxdoo>>>uses XmlHttpRequest, while Dojo uses internal frames for browsers>>>that don‘t support XmlHttpRequest. Could someone confirm whether>>>this statement is true?>>>>>>Eelco>>>>>>Cameron Shorter wrote:>>>>>>>Has anyone done a comparison of Qooxdoo and Dojo?>>>>If so, is there any way to bring the best of these two projects>>>>together?>>>>>>>>It seems Dojo is strong on the backend, and Qooxdoo is strong with>>>>widget rendering.>>>>>>_______________________________________________>>>Dojo-interest mailing list>>>Dojo-interest at dojotoolkit.org>>>http://dojotoolkit.org/mailman/listinfo/dojo-interest>>>>_______________________________________________>>Dojo-interest mailing list>>Dojo-interest at dojotoolkit.org>>http://dojotoolkit.org/mailman/listinfo/dojo-interest> >
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