萨拉赫阿里：哲学是浪费了我。古兰经翻译是一种浪费太多 - 在丹尼尔管道读者评论

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Salah Ali: Philosophy is wasted on me.萨拉赫阿里：哲学是浪费了我。 Koran translations are a waste too古兰经翻译是一种浪费太多
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Submitted by Plato (India) , Sep 19, 2009 at 13:05提交的柏拉图（印度），2009年9月19日13:05
Salah Ali, you wrote,萨拉赫阿里，你说，
>> Well, I was talking about ontology .<< >> 嗯，我说的是本体论。<<
Ontology: The metaphysical study of the nature of being and existence (Wordweb).本体论：Wordweb）形而上学的研究报告（性质的福祉和生存。 I could not find anything metaphysical ( Highly abstract and overly theoretical metaphysical reasoning ? Wordweb. ) about your story about apples, oranges, asses and donkeys or of black cows coming out white milk.我找不到任何形而上学（高度抽象和过于抽象的理论推理？Wordweb。苹果）关于关于你的故事，橙子，驴和驴奶白色或黑色的牛出来。 I am not trained in western philosophy so maybe I am wrong.我不是在西方哲学的训练，所以也许我错了。
>> I wrote somewhere else the following passage which I will quote here. >> 我写了下面一段话在其他地方，我会在这里引用。 So it would give you some idea about my world-view: I write it without any intention to convince or persuade. 因此，它会给你一些人认为我的想法世界：我写说服它没有任何意图说服或。 because there is no hateful creatures to me as those who try to impose convictions on others . 因为没有憎恨别人对我的动物那些谁试图强加信念。 Mullas and monks alike can be as stupid .<< Mullas和僧侣都可以说是愚蠢的。<<
Good thing you claim to be an atheist later in the post because otherwise you will end up hating Allah as the one constant in the Koran is His wanting to impose His conviction that He is the only one worthy of worship.好东西你说是一个无神论者，后来在后，否则最终会恨你作为一个恒定的古兰经是真主，他想施加他的信念，即他是唯一值得信仰。 Just two verses will do for now:只需将两个诗句做现在：
003.085 YUSUFALI: If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah ), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good). 003.085 YUSUFALI：如果有人想要一个宗教伊斯兰教以外（提交真主），它是永远不会接受他，并在今后他会在适当的）行列的那些谁失去了（所有的精神。
009.033 YUSUFALI: It is He Who hath sent His Messenger with guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it). 009.033 YUSUFALI：这是他谁差遣他的使者的指导和真理的宗教，它宣布对所有宗教，即使是异教徒的人不愿意（它）。
>> But I should be grareful if your answer to the following is not biased or driven by desirability. >>但我应该grareful如果您的回答以下是不怀偏见或可取性驱动。 Let's be objective and just. 让我们保持客观和公正。 I cannot see God but justice . << 我不能见上帝而是正义。<<
God should be justice and in most religions, especially polytheistic ones, gods are just.上帝应公正，而且在大多数的宗教，特别是多神的，神是正义的。 Probably because the gods have to compete with one another for people's affection.可能是因为神有竞争，一为人民的感情另一个。 But what does the Koran reveal about Allah?但什么是可兰经揭示真主？ Read these verses and judge for yourself:阅读这些诗句为自己和判断：
YUSUFALI: Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else , to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed. YUSUFALI：真主赦免不是应该让他的合作伙伴与;但他赦免任何东西，向谁他pleaseth;成立真主伙伴是制订一套最令人发指的罪恶实在。
Is this just? 这只是？ What is so heinous about worshipping someone besides this hectoring god? 什么是如此盛气凌人令人发指崇拜的人除了对这个神？
YUSUFALI: Never should a believer kill a believer ; but (If it so happens) by mistake, (Compensation is due): If one (so) kills a believer, it is ordained that he should free a believing slave, and pay compensation to the deceased's family…. YUSUFALI：切勿应信徒杀死一个信徒，但它恰巧）误（如果，（补偿是由于）：如果一个人（所以）杀死一个信徒，它注定是自由的一个，他应该相信奴隶，并支付赔偿向死者的家人...。
YUSUFALI: If a man kills a believer intentionally , his recompense is Hell, to abide therein…. YUSUFALI：如果一个人故意杀死一个信徒，他的报酬是地狱，遵守其中...。
Isn't an unbeliever if killed intentionally or not entitled to justice?如果不是一个异教徒故意杀害或无权绳之以法？ Is there anywhere in the Koran where Allah gives justice to non-Muslims.是否有任何地方可兰经在真主让正义的非穆斯林。 Can you anything biased in my comments on these verses?你可以在这些诗句我的意见偏颇吗？
>> I have seen much of agony in Iraq to compare with the 11/9 but this is politics and we may have a come back to later .<< >> 我看到许多在伊拉克的痛苦，比较与11月9日，但这是政治，我们可能有一个回来以后。<<
What?什么？
>> Now my comment on the HOLY QUR'AN: By the way Europe cannot do without oil and Arabic is the sixth working language in the UNO. There is so fine poetry in Arabic and many USA and European Universities teach Arabic .<< >> 现在我的神圣古兰经评论：顺便问欧洲离不开石油和阿拉伯语是第六工作语言的联合国办事处。诗歌有如此良好的阿拉伯文和许多美国和欧洲的大学教授阿拉伯语。<<
Is there no fine poetry in other languages?有没有其他语言的优秀诗歌？ Many US and European universities also teach Chinese, Hindi…许多美国和欧洲的大学也教中文，印地文...
>> It is inhuman to play down the significance of any human being and this is what I understand as the essence of Islam , of all religions :<< >> 这是不人道的意义正在淡化任何人，这就是我理解的伊斯兰教宗教的本质，所有：<<
Unless all the translators of the Koran have got things totally and absolutely wrong the essence of Islam is dividing up humans into Muslims and non-Muslims.除非所有的古兰经翻译有得到的东西完全和绝对错误的实质，是对伊斯兰教的分裂成穆斯林和非穆斯林人。 And threatening the non-Muslims, for mere disbelief, with inhuman punishments certainly argues for downgrading them to insignificance.并威胁到非穆斯林，为单纯的怀疑，与非人道的惩罚当然应该对降级他们的渺小。
It is the Koran which plays down the significance of humans verse after verse.这是可兰经的贬低人类意义的诗后的诗句。 Women are made less significant than men in 4:34.妇女是由小于4:34男子显着。 Muslims are said to be the best of people in and the Christians and Jews are called perverted in 3:110.穆斯林说是在人们的基督徒和犹太人在3:110最好被称为变态。 And you know what Islam thinks of polytheists.而且你知道伊斯兰教的多神论的看法。
If your claim is, that like other religions, Islam does not downplay some humans is correct, then the Arabic Koran must be totally incomprehensible to all translators of Allah's words.如果你的说法是，像其他宗教，伊斯兰教不贬低一些人是正确的，那么阿拉伯古兰经必须完全不能理解的真主的话都翻译。
Dear Plato, 亲爱的柏拉图，
>> Many thanks for your pains-taking comments. >> 参加评论非常感谢您的痛苦，。 There is always the other side of the coin in almost everything. 总是有硬币的另一面几乎一切。 Years ago I was avid reader of Kant, Hegel, Sartre, Husserl. 几年前，我是忠实读者对康德，黑格尔，萨特，胡塞尔。 Phenomenology and philosophies of perception were my topics of interest indeed. 知觉现象学与哲学的兴趣的确是我的课题研究。 …... ... ... As you see my first introduction was not to Islam, but to Existentialism and German philosophy. 当你看到我第一次不是伊斯兰教，而是存在主义哲学和德国。 I owe much of my mind and personality formation to the West and to European man. 我欠我的脑海里形成很大的个性和对西方和欧洲男子。 …... ... ... In speaking about world-view, it is not mind alone that must be depended on. 在谈到世界观，它仅仅是不介意，必须依赖。 The whole of man's experience. I would define man as a just creature or creature of justice. In other words, we cannot keep to our impressionistic experience and conceptualize or internalize what we purely received as perceptions because we will image what we like as the truth. I never deny that much of our world, mental world, is sensual and our judgments follow our senses .<< 这段经历整个人类的。我将界定司法人作为一个公正的动物或动物。换言之，我们不能让我们的印象的经验和概念化或内部化是我们纯粹的看法收到的，因为我们将图片我们的真理，如同在。我从来不否认，许多我们的世界，心理世界，我们的判断是感性的，按照我们的感官。<<
That is pretty heavy stuff.这是相当沉重的东西。 Many of the finer points you are trying to make escape me.的许多细微之处你是我努力使逃生。 But I fail to see the connection between man being a just creature and his judgment depending on his senses.但我看不出是个义之间的动物，他的判断取决于他的感觉的人联系。 If man is by nature a just creature (I suppose that is what you are trying to convey, keep in mind that I am not a trained philosopher) his senses and experiences should not interfere with his judgment, for if they do then he is not a naturally just creature.如果人是一个公正的动物（我想这就是你所要传达，请记住，我不是一个受过训练的哲学家）他的感觉和经验，不应该干涉他的判断，因为如果他们不那么他是不是天生只是一种自然的生物。
Hitler exterminated millions of Jews, Muhammad beheaded close to 800 Jews and sold their women and children into slavery.希特勒灭绝犹太人的数百万，穆罕默德斩首接近800卖作奴隶的犹太人和他们的妇女和儿童。 The Nazis' senses clouded by propaganda did not see this as unjust.通过宣传掩盖了纳粹的感觉并不认为这是不公正的。 Similarly Muslim sensibilities clouded by religious propaganda do not see anything unjust in this cruel act.同样穆斯林宗教感情的宣传掩盖什么也没有看到在这种残酷的行为是不公正的。 Man shows by these incidents that he is not a just creature but a creature of his senses.这些事件，他不是一个公正的产物，而是他的感官动物曼节目。 It is by rising above our sense experiences that attempt to cloud our judgment that we become just creatures.这是由我们的意识经验，上述企图妨碍我们的判断，我们刚刚成为生物上升。
>>.. There is no mathematics in belief but we believe in mathematics . >> .. 在有信仰，但我们没有数学数学相信。 << <<
Sounds nice and probably there is a metaphysical truth in it somewhere.听起来不错，可能有一个真理是形而上学的某处。 But I fail to see it.但我看不到它。
>> I tried to use my mind in judging the Qur'an (not Islam). >> 我试图用古兰经（我的心在判断不是伊斯兰教）。 Because I am not historian or Shari'a specialist but I read the Qur'an for understanding while I have at the background in my mind Richard Bell, Watt and Theodor Noldeke with a book like that of Hagerism among many others references that questioned the truth of the Qur'an .<< 因为我不是历史学家或伊斯兰教的专家，但我读古兰经为真理的认识，而我Hagerism有其背景在我的脑海理查德贝尔，瓦特和西奥多1 Noldeke与许多其他国家一样的书引用质疑本古兰经。<<
Using the mind is the only way to judge anything, not just the Koran.用心灵是唯一的方法来判断什么，不只是可兰经。 Books help the mind in coming to a judgment图书帮助来判断心
>> I find that the truth of the Qur'an lies in something that lies beyond words but is in the words too .<< >> 我发现，古兰经真理的 < 在于东西是无法用语言，而是在文生。<
But what exactly.但究竟是什么。 is the truth of the Koran?古兰经是真理？ Can only the reader who reads it in Arabic understand it?谁的读者只能读取阿拉伯文理解？ A truth that can be understood only in a language not many understand (90% as you have estimated) is a wasted truth.一个可以理解的语言只有了解并不多（90％，你估计）真理是浪费的真理。 Allah cannot be unaware of this truth if He is all-knowing.阿拉不能成为这种不明真相的，如果他是无所不知的。
>> First, I see all translations (being a translator myself) are different books .<< >> 首先，我看到所有的翻译（我自己是一个翻译）是不同的书籍。<<
This just reinforces the fact (truth?) that the Koran is unclear even to scholars of Islam.这只是强化了事实（真相？）表示，目前还不清楚甚至古兰经伊斯兰学者。 They would not have come up with different books ie different translated Korans otherwise.他们不会想出了不同的书籍翻译可兰经，否则即不同。 This also negates Allah's claims for the Koran being a clear book easy to understand in several verses.这也否定了作为一个清晰的容易理解的书在几个阿拉古兰经经文的说法。
002.159 YUSUFALI: Those who conceal the clear (Signs) We have sent down, and the Guidance, after We have made it clear for the people in the Book ,-on them shall be Allah's curse, and the curse of those entitled to curse ,- 002.159 YUSUFALI：那些谁掩盖了明确（签字）我们已下达，并指导，在我们已经清楚了书的人，上他们将真主的诅咒，以及题为诅咒那些诅咒， -
054.040 YUSUFALI: And We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition? 054.040 YUSUFALI：我们确实取得了古兰经容易理解和记忆：那是没有任何迹象表明将会收到警告？
[2.99] And certainly We have revealed to you clear communications and none disbelieve in them except the transgressors . [2.99]，当然，我们已经透露给你明确的沟通，没有他们不相信在除违规者。
Cclear book (5:15), easy to understand 44:58 , 54:22 , 54:32, 54:40, explained in detail (6:114), conveyed clearly, (5:16, 10:15) and with no doubt in it (2:1) Cclear书（5:15），易于理解44:58，54:22，54:32，54:40，详细解释（6:114），传达清楚，（5:16，10:15）和没有它（2:1怀疑）
Verse after verse in the Koran claims it is a clear book.诗可兰经经文后声称它是一个明确的书。 It cannot be anybody's case that a clear book, in whatever language, cannot be made clear in any other language (except perhaps the most poorly developed ones).它不能被任何人的情况下，一个清晰的书在任何一种语言，不能在任何其他语言可能是最清楚的，除了低度开发的（）。
If you read 2:159 you hear Allah cursing people who do not understand His clear message (whatever that is).如果你读2:159你听到真主诅咒的人谁不明白他的明确的信息（无论是）。 Since it is untranslatable (as even you admit all translations you have read are different books, meaning they contain different messages, then either He is cursing only the people who understand Arabic and remain unbelievers or He is unjustly cursing the majority of mankind (non-Arabic speakers).既然是不可译（因为即使你承认你所读书籍的翻译是不同的，这意味着它们含有不同的信息，然后可以骂他是唯一的人谁知道阿拉伯语，并保持不信或不公正地骂他是对人类的大多数（非讲阿拉伯语）。
And why is the Mighty Allah reduced to cursing humans He has created?又为什么是万能真主诅咒减少到他所创造人类？ He cannot be as mighty and all-powerful as He claims to be in so many other verses.他不能被视为强大和全能的，因为他声称自己是在其他许多诗句。
>> For example there had been two translation of Rilke's Leapard, one was of my colleague in Vienna University the late Mr. Robert de Beaugrande. >> 例如曾有两个Leapard翻译里尔克的，一个是我在维也纳大学的同事罗伯特先生已故去博格兰。 It is on the perception of a caged leopard. 正是在豹看法，一笼。 The experience of writing the poem by Rilke differs from the experience of translating it. 里尔克的诗的经验写了不同于它的翻译经验。 Then how can it be possible for me to transfer the experience of a poet to a reader who comes third in the transmission process .<< 那么如何才能可以让我转移诗人体验到一个读者来谁在传输过程中的第三。<<
With this example of translational difficulties you are reinforcing the fact that the Koran cannot be properly translated.有了这你是加强该古兰经不能正确翻译事实翻译困难的例子。 Again, how then can it be a message for mankind.同样，又如何才能成为人类的信息。 You must also ask yourself how any one can possibly understand the Koran properly, even in Arabic, as it came to Muhammad second hand via Gabriel and to us third hand via the Prophet?您还必须问自己如何任何一个都不可能正确理解可兰经，甚至在阿拉伯语，因为它来到穆罕默德通过二手加布里埃尔和我们通过先知第三手？ This makes a strong case for interpreting the Koran in the literal sense.这使得在一个解释可兰经的字面意义上强有力的理由。 For Gabriel could not have known the mind of Allah when he revealed the Koran to him.对于加布里埃尔不可能知道真主的心灵时，他透露他的古兰经。 Nor could Mohammed have known the mind of Gabriel when he was given the Koran.穆罕默德也无法知道了加布里埃尔的头脑，他得到了可兰经。 You have to take the Koran in the literal sense to avoid trying to read the mind of Allah third hand.你必须在字面意义上的可兰经，以避免尝试读取真主第三手的想法。
>> Even when my mind rejects the the tyranny of God, the Qur'an still is so impressive and powerful .<< >> 即使在我的脑海里拒绝上帝的暴政，仍是如此令人印象深刻的古兰经和强大。<<
There is some hope yet as you reject the tyranny of God (not Allah?).但也有一些希望你拒绝暴政神（不是阿拉？）。 What if the Koran is impressive and powerful?如果古兰经是令人印象深刻和强大？ Hitler's oratory was impressive and powerful and it resulted in devastation.希特勒的演讲令人印象深刻和强大，它在破坏造成的。 The impressive and powerful message of the Koran is causing devastation to this day unlike Hitlers which was limited to a decade.可兰经的令人印象深刻的和强有力的信息造成破坏这一天不同的是仅限于10年希特勒。 During his time Muhammad conducted nearly 75 unprovoked gazwas resulting in thousands of death.穆罕默德在他的时间进行了近75无端gazwas，造成成千上万的死亡。
His death lead to the blood bath of the Ridda wars.他的死亡导致战争的Ridda血浴。 His sahaba Khalid Bin Walid decapitated even people who had surrendered.哈立德本瓦利德他Sahaba的断头甚至谁投降的人。 There has been practically no let up in this dance of death, in the name of Allah's truth, since the Nakhla incident.目前已经几乎没有让我们在这个死亡之舞，乃真主的真理的名义，自里处的纳赫拉事件。 Yes the Koran is a VERY impressive and powerful document.是可兰经是一个非常令人印象深刻，强大的文档。 The moot question is do we need this powerful book that leads its readers to cause impressive devastation?一个争论未决的问题：我们是否需要这种强大的书，导致读者造成的破坏令人印象深刻？
And, what do you find impressive and powerful in the Koran?而且，你有什么令人印象深刻和强大的可兰经发现？ Muslims claim that Surat Fatiha is impressive and powerful (do you?).穆斯林声称，苏拉特和强大的开端章令人印象深刻（你？）。 Do you find Surat The Palm Fibre impressive and powerful?你是否发现令人印象深刻的苏拉特棕榈纤维及强大？
Surah Fatiha: Surah开端章：
- 07 YUSUFALI: In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. - 07 YUSUFALI：在真主的名义，最仁慈的，是至慈的。 Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds; Most Gracious, Most Merciful; Master of the Day of Judgment.赞美真主的庇佑和世界上维持者;最仁慈的，是至慈;的审判日硕士学位。 Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek.我们崇拜你，和你的帮助下，我们所追求的。 Show us the straight way, The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, those whose (portion) is not wrath, and who go not astray.向我们展示了直通，这些方法对其中祢赐予你的恩典，那些（部分）是不是愤怒，谁去不误入歧途。
This sounds like Allah praying to Himself (unless this is comes from just another translated book) as it does not begin with 'Say' which would have made clear it is a prayer Allah is dictating for us to pray to Him.这听起来像真主祈祷自己（除非这只是另一种是从翻译的书来），因为它不是以'说'这将有明确这是一个祈祷真主是支配我们向他祈祷。
- 005 YUSUFALI: Perish the hands of the Father of Flame! - 005 YUSUFALI：亡火焰手里的父亲！ Perish he!他灭亡！ No profit to him from all his wealth, and all his gains!无论从他的所有财富的利润给他，和他的收益！ Burnt soon will he be in a Fire of Blazing Flame!本特，他将在即将燃烧的火焰的火！ His wife shall carry the (crackling) wood - As fuel!- A twisted rope of palm-leaf fibre round her (own) neck!他的妻子须携带（脆皮）木 - 作为燃料！ - 以棕榈树叶纤维扭绳轮她（自己的）的脖子！
This is Allah cursing and threatening an unknown man and his wife (unless it is assumed the Father of the Flame is Abu Lahab as some translators tells us) for no particular reason.这是真主诅咒和威胁不明身份的男子和他的妻子（除非它是承担了火焰父是阿布Lahab一些翻译告诉我们）无特殊原因。
These five verses may sound impressive and powerful in Arabic.这五个诗句听起来令人印象深刻，强大的阿拉伯语。 This is a scripture that claims to speak to mankind for all time.这是经文，声称要代表所有的时间给人类。 What is this Surat telling us?这是什么苏拉特告诉我们？ Shakespeare's verses are equally impressive and powerful but no one calls them scripture.莎士比亚的诗句，同样令人印象深刻，有力，但没有人叫我们经文。
>> Its language cannot be understood by 90% of Moslems all over the world .<< >>的语言不能被理解了90％的穆斯林世界各地。<<
Why do you call them Moslems and why do they call themselves Moslems?你为什么叫他们为什么穆斯林和他们自称是穆斯林？ And how can they be true Moslems if they cannot understand the Koran properly?又如何能成为真正的穆斯林，如果他们不能正确理解古兰经？
>> I measure that from an atheist standpoint, which is mine .<< >> 我的措施，从一个无神论者的立场，这是我的。<<
You are an atheist?你是无神论者？ Are you the same Salah Ali who wrote this:你是谁写的一样萨拉赫阿里这样的：
"You best now read the Qur'an and learn how to get rid of all evils and worship the one God…. “你最好现在读古兰经，学习如何让所有邪恶，摆脱了一神崇拜...。
"And you are Godless! God is above us all and He sees and He hears we will go on building the city of God that is the city of love and justice in one world without terror, hunger or fear .."http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/161228 “你是无神论者！上帝是我们头顶上都和他所看到和听到的，他将继续建设我们的城市的神，是城市的爱和正义的世界在一个没有恐怖，饥饿或害怕..”http:// www.danielpipes.org/comments/161228
>> I cannot see in it but a speaker who cannot be Muhammad .<< >> 我无法看到它，但1 < 议长穆罕默德谁不能。<
You could be right about this as he was accused even by the Meccans that he was just parroting what someone (A Christian cousin of Khadija) was teaching him.你可能会说得对，因为他被指控甚至被Meccans，他只是鹦鹉学舌什么人（附哈蒂嘉基督教表弟）正在教他。 There was also the case of Othman's cousin who was the prophet's scribe and would sometimes put down his own words in the revelations and they would be accepted.还有的奥斯曼的堂兄弟案谁是先知的文士和有时会放下的启示他自己的话说，他们将被接受。 He nearly lost his life for apostasising but the powerful Othman saved him.他几乎失去了apostasising但强大的奥斯曼救了他自己的生命。
>> For how can Muhammad be so comprehensive in vision ?<< >> 对于如何能穆罕默德如此全面的眼光？<<
011.007 YUSUFALI: He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days - and His Throne was over the waters - that He might try you, which of you is best in conduct. 011.007 YUSUFALI：他是谁创造了天堂和地球在6天- 和他的宝座是在水面 -他可能会尝试你们，看你们是行为的最佳状态。 But if thou wert to say to them, "Ye shall indeed be raised up after death", the Unbelievers would be sure to say, "This is nothing but obvious sorcery!"但如果你是谁对他们说，“你们是要复活死后上升”，不信道者必定说：“这只是明显的巫术！”
Did the waters exist before the Universe was created and what contained the waters?像以前的宇宙是怎样创建和存在的水域中的水？
YUSUFALI: And He hath made subject to you the sun and the moon, both diligently pursuing their courses; and the night and the day hath he (also) made subject to you. YUSUFALI：他救了你受太阳和月亮，都努力追求自己的课程，以及昼夜的上帝，他（也）服从于你。
006.096 YUSUFALI: He it is that cleaveth the day-break (from the dark): He makes the night for rest and tranquillity, and the sun and moon for the reckoning (of time) : Such is the judgment and ordering of (Him), the Exalted in Power, the Omniscient. 006.096 YUSUFALI：他那就是cleaveth一天休息时间（从暗）：他使夜间休息和安宁，太阳和）月亮的清算（时间：就是这样的判断和订购（他），在电力万能的，无所不知。
We need the sun for much more important purposes.我们需要为更重要的目的太阳。 The energy of the sun is what drives everything on earth.太阳的能量是地球上所有的驱动器。 If Allah had given a hint of this fact his comprehensive vision would have been more obvious.如果真主已经给了这个事实暗示了全面的眼光会更明显。
YUSUFALI: It is not permitted to the Sun to catch up the Moon, nor can the Night outstrip the Day: Each (just) swims along in (its own) orbit (according to Law) YUSUFALI：这是不允许追赶太阳月亮，也不能夜超出日：每个（只）游泳沿（它自己）轨道（依法）
The moon is tied to the earth and the two together are tied to the sun.月亮是绑在地球和两者都依赖于太阳。 The moon and sun racing across the skies is an illusion.月亮和太阳在天空的赛车是一种幻想。 Allah's comprehensive vision does not see this?安拉的全面眼光不看？
-002 YUSUFALI: By the Sun and his (glorious) splendour; By the Moon as she follows him -002 YUSUFALI：由太阳和他的（光荣）光辉的月亮，她跟着他
36:40 means the sun is chasing the moon. 36:40意味着太阳追逐月亮。 91:1-2 says the moon is chasing the sun. 91:1-2说，月球是追逐太阳。
What we see in these verses is not the comprehensive vision of a Creator of the Universe but a mind unable to comprehend the world because of the poor science of his period.我们看到的是在这些经文不是一个宇宙的创造者，而是一个全面的设想头脑无法理解的，因为他那个时代科学界的穷人。 That is why we find these and many other incomprehensible statements in the Koran这就是为什么我们觉得这些和许多其他的古兰经难以理解的发言
>> And let's suppose that he was like Plato, was so clever to compose such a work, how could such a work be rhythmically consistent . It beats my strong unbelieving mind. << >> 而且我们认为他是柏拉图一样，是如此聪明的撰写等工作，怎么可能是这样的工作节奏是一致的。我真的不信心强。<<
Does composing rhythmically consistent work add up to divine composition?是否构成一贯的工作节奏加起来神圣的组成情况？ You are not serious?你是不是真的呢？ The Vedas of the Hindus are probably more rhythmic.在印度教的吠陀可能更多节奏。 Even if it was not and if a Hindus claims this how will you disprove her/him?即使它不是，如果一个印度教徒声称在这方面你会如何反驳她/他吗？ C ç
>>Still, it is difficult for non-Arabs to see eye-to-eye or feel heart to heart as I do.<< >>然而，这是阿拉伯人很难不看眼睛到眼睛或感到心对心像我一样。<<
Nearly a billion non-Arabs do seem to see eye-to-eye and heart-to-heart.近1亿元非阿拉伯人也似乎看到眼睛对眼睛和心对心。 At least they seem to think they do.至少他们似乎以为是这样。
>> The eye that sees in the Qur'an is cosmic eye . >> 古兰经的眼睛看到的是宇宙的眼睛。 And this was by no means available to Muhammad .<< 这绝不是提供给穆罕默德。<<
Cosmic eye??宇宙的眼睛？？ Are you back to being a theist?你回是一个有神论者？ It is obvious from what the Koran says that it is a human creation.很显然，从可兰经说什么，它是人类创造。 Would it contain curses against a man who was the prophet's unbelieving uncle.将它包含对一个男人谁是先知的叔叔不信诅咒。 What cosmic reason is there for Surah 111?宇宙是什么原因，那里Surah 111？
What cosmic reason is there for Allah to interfere in the sex life of a man.宇宙是什么原因有真主干涉一个人的性生活。 Recall the verses about Zaid, Maria or permission to marry as many women as the prophet wished.记得大约在扎伊德，玛丽亚或准许结婚像许多妇女希望先知的诗句。 These verses indicate that the roving eye of Muhammad was involved and not a cosmic one.这些诗句表明，涉及穆罕默德巡回眼睛，而不是一个宇宙之一。
The silly science in the Koran makes it abundantly clear that it was composed by someone with earthly eyes.在古兰经中已十分愚蠢的科学表明，它是由人组成，与尘世的眼睛。
Regards此致
Plato柏拉图
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Burqa and terrorism: UK airport update [10 words]布卡和恐怖主义：英国机场更新 [10话] Thomas Pellow托马斯佩洛 Nov 2, 2009 13:13 2009年11月2日13:13
CHoice to wear Hijab [118 words]选择戴头巾 [118话] Sabrina Z萨布里纳? Oct 13, 2009 20:59 2009年10月13日20:59
↔high fashion [81 words] ↔高级时装 [81话] the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan大异教徒的卡菲里斯坦 Oct 14, 2009 16:10 2009年10月14日16:10
↔Choice? [92 words] ↔选择？ [92话] Jeff杰夫 Oct 18, 2009 12:02 2009年10月18日12:02
↔Which God? [65 words] ↔上帝？ [65话] Capt. Wade韦德上尉 Dec 19, 2009 11:57 09年12月19日11:57
Sheikh el-Azhar bans al-niqab in the schools run by el-Azhar! [416 words]谢赫埃尔爱资哈尔禁止基地niqab在爱资哈尔！学校运行的EL - [416话] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Oct 11, 2009 10:03 2009年10月11日10:03
↔Misuse of 498a Act in India [365 words] ↔滥用法在印度498a [365话] suresh苏雷什 Oct 17, 2009 06:07 2009年10月17日06:07
↔al-niqab should be allowed as a matter of individual choice [101 words] ↔基地niqab应允许在个人选择问题 [101话] Zajaria Abdullah Zajaria阿卜杜拉 Oct 19, 2009 02:36 2009年10月19日02:36
↔Another victim of Arabian imperialism [324 words] ↔另一个帝国主义的受害者阿拉伯 [324话] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Oct 19, 2009 20:13 2009年10月19日20:13
↔Answer to dhimmi no more [499 words] ↔答迪米人没有更多 [499话] Haji Syed Mehmood Ali哈吉马哈茂德赛义德阿里 Oct 30, 2009 03:42 2009年10月30日03:42
↔agree with this message. [71 words] ↔同意此消息。 [71话] chandni月光 Nov 26, 2009 03:19 2009年11月26日03:19
Clothes of Mass Destruction [171 words]大规模销毁衣服 [171话] Amina阿米娜 Sep 27, 2009 05:01 2009年9月27日05:01
↔Amina and islamic hypocrisy [90 words] ↔阿米娜和伊斯兰虚伪 [90话] Suppression of religious expression镇压宗教表达 Sep 28, 2009 01:36 2009年9月28日01:36
↔What really is a belief? [127 words] ↔真正是一种信念？ [127话] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi谢默斯Dafydd潜水MacNemi Sep 29, 2009 23:50 2009年9月29日23:50
↔Anonymous Turk [212 words] ↔匿名特克 [212话] Amina阿米娜 Sep 30, 2009 00:17 2009年9月30日00:17
↔Amina: The Stockholm syndrome revisited:In defending the niqab you are defending your right to be "Humiliated, Submissive, and Blindly Obedient to Men" [2038 words] ↔阿米娜：斯德哥尔摩综合症回顾：为了捍卫niqab你是捍卫你的权利，“屈辱，顺从，盲目地服从男人” [2038字] Plato柏拉图 Oct 1, 2009 04:21 2009年10月1日04:21
↔ISLAMO PHOBIA [23 words] ↔一些伊斯兰恐怖症 [23话] Azad阿扎德 Oct 3, 2009 08:14 2009年10月3日08:14
↔Our dear Amina and islamic hypocricy [528 words] ↔我们亲爱的阿米娜和伊斯兰虚伪 [528话] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Oct 4, 2009 08:43 2009年10月4日08:43
↔Our dear Amina and islamic hypocricy part deux [726 words] ↔我们亲爱的阿米娜和伊斯兰虚伪的一部分德塞夫勒 [726话] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Oct 4, 2009 09:17 2009年10月4日09:17
↔Our dear Amina and islamic hypocricy and with islamic logic it seems that handsome men must wear al-niqab part trois [458 words] ↔我们亲爱的阿米娜和伊斯兰与伊斯兰虚伪和逻辑似乎英俊男子必须穿铝niqab部分三河 [458话] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Oct 4, 2009 15:56 2009年10月4日15:56
↔Hey Azad [132 words] ↔嘿阿扎德 [132话] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi谢默斯Dafydd潜水MacNemi Oct 4, 2009 19:56 2009年10月4日19:56
↔What is really islamophobia? [17 words] ↔什么是真正仇视伊斯兰教？ [17话] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Oct 4, 2009 20:48 2009年10月4日20:48
↔Amina Amina darling Amina [618 words] ↔阿米娜阿米娜亲爱的阿米娜 [618话] Amina阿米娜 Oct 5, 2009 00:17 2009年10月5日00:17
↔My last comment [509 words] ↔我最后的评论 [509话] Amina阿米娜 Oct 5, 2009 01:26 2009年10月5日01:26
↔Our dear Amina and islamic hypocricy part trois [930 words] ↔我们亲爱的阿米娜和虚伪的伊斯兰三河 [930话] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Oct 6, 2009 07:50 2009年10月6日07:50
↔European vacation? [1193 words] ↔欧洲度假？ [1193字] the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan大异教徒的卡菲里斯坦 Oct 6, 2009 16:58 2009年10月6日16:58
↔Our dear Amina is running away part one [803 words] ↔我们亲爱的阿米娜是出走第一部分 [803话] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Oct 6, 2009 20:52 2009年10月6日20:52
↔Amina: Are you leaving this blog because of fear of Allah? ↔阿米娜：你离开真主的恐惧，因为这个博客？He tells you not to sit with us in 6:68 [3056 words]他告诉你不要跟我们坐在6:68 [3056字] Plato柏拉图 Oct 6, 2009 22:07 2009年10月6日22:07
↔Amina: Islam is politics and politics is Islam and never the twain shall part [2498 words] ↔阿米娜：伊斯兰教是政治，政治是伊斯兰教和两者是不会的一部分 [2498字] Plato柏拉图 Oct 7, 2009 04:58 2009年10月7日04:58
↔Dear Amina [245 words] ↔亲爱的阿米娜 [245话] Susan Browne苏珊布朗 Oct 7, 2009 11:03 2009年10月7日11:03
↔Our dear Amina: And the liar is! [675 words] ↔我们亲爱的阿米娜：而撒谎！ [675话] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Oct 8, 2009 19:19 2009年10月8日19:19
↔Our dear Amina is running away part deux [496 words] ↔我们亲爱的阿米娜是出走的一部分德塞夫勒 [496话] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Oct 9, 2009 18:20 2009年10月9日18:20
↔Answer to dhimmi no more [284 words] ↔答迪米人没有更多 [284话] Haji Syed Mehmood Ali哈吉马哈茂德赛义德阿里 Oct 30, 2009 04:05 2009年10月30日04:05
↔Haji Syed: Grow up and smell the coffee [1357 words] ↔哈吉赛义德：长大了，闻一闻咖啡 [1357字] Plato柏拉图 Nov 6, 2009 20:40 2009年11月6日20:40
↔Our dear Haji and on being cluelss [506 words] ↔我们亲爱的哈吉和正在cluelss [506话] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Nov 7, 2009 22:19 2009年11月7日22:19
↔Answer to Plato. [66 words] ↔答柏拉图。 [66话] Haji Syed Mehmood Ali哈吉马哈茂德赛义德阿里 Nov 8, 2009 01:16 2009年11月8日01:16
↔to dhimmi no more [21 words] ↔到迪米人不多 [21话] Haji Syed Mehmood Ali哈吉马哈茂德赛义德阿里 Nov 9, 2009 07:04 2009年11月9日07:04
↔Haji Syed: Where can I find the correct translation of the Koran? [371 words] ↔哈吉赛义德：我在哪里可以找到正确的古兰经翻译？ [371话] Plato柏拉图 Nov 11, 2009 21:07 09年11月11日21:07
↔Answer to Plato [52 words] ↔答柏拉图 [52话] Haji Syed Mehmood Ali哈吉马哈茂德赛义德阿里 Nov 13, 2009 04:43 09年11月13日04:43
↔Haji Syed: Why are there unholy satanic verses like 9:29 and 9:111 in your holy book? [149 words] ↔哈吉赛义德：为什么会有9:29和9:111邪恶撒旦诗篇喜欢你的圣书？ [149话] Plato柏拉图 Nov 18, 2009 21:01 2009年11月18日21:01
Forbid All [38 words]禁止所有 [38话] dfwhite19438 dfwhite19438 Sep 27, 2009 02:42 2009年9月27日02:42
The west is reviving Hitlerism [89 words]西部地区正在复苏希特勒 [89话] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi谢默斯Dafydd潜水MacNemi Sep 24, 2009 19:22 2009年9月24日19:22
another ACLU supported hijab lawsuit [152 words]另一个美国公民自由联盟支持头巾诉讼 [152话] Larry拉里 Sep 24, 2009 14:07 2009年9月24日14:07
Denial of humanity [57 words]人类拒绝 [57话] Patsy帕齐 Sep 14, 2009 23:17 2009年9月14日23:17
Niqabs and Burqas Do Not Belong In The 21st Century [59 words]Niqabs和面纱不属于21世纪 [59话] AnneM安内姆 Sep 11, 2009 18:45 2009年9月11日18:45
↔Answer to AnneM [164 words] ↔答安内姆 [164话] Haji SYed Mehmood Ali哈吉马哈茂德赛义德阿里 Oct 30, 2009 04:23 2009年10月30日04:23
↔Haji Syed: Why this Muslim obsession with women's clothing? [290 words] ↔哈吉赛义德：为什么这样的衣服穆斯林妇女痴迷？ [290话] Plato柏拉图 Nov 7, 2009 21:13 2009年11月7日21:13
↔Answer to Plato [121 words] ↔答柏拉图 [121话] Haji Syed Mehmood Ali哈吉马哈茂德赛义德阿里 Nov 9, 2009 06:52 2009年11月9日06:52
↔Haji Syed: What is there to disrespect in a nude human? [308 words] ↔哈吉赛义德：有什么不敬的一个裸体的人呢？ [308话] Plato柏拉图 Nov 11, 2009 21:03 09年11月11日21时03分
↔Answer to Plato [79 words] ↔答柏拉图 [79话] Haji Syed Mehmood Ali哈吉马哈茂德赛义德阿里 Nov 13, 2009 04:49 09年11月13日04:49
↔Haji Syed: Islam does not teach how to live life but rather devalues it [265 words] ↔哈吉赛义德：伊斯兰教并没有教导如何生活，而是贬低它 [265话] Plato柏拉图 Nov 18, 2009 21:17 2009年11月18日21:17
↔Free country [12 words] ↔自由国家 [12话] Macy梅西 Dec 22, 2009 19:11 2009年12月22日19:11
advantages of parda.. [184 words]..优势帕达 [184话] shams wazir沙姆斯瓦齐尔 Sep 11, 2009 01:37 2009年9月11日01:37
↔advantages of parda [54 words] ↔帕达优势 [54话] PC Mani电脑玛尼 Sep 12, 2009 23:45 2009年9月12日23:45
↔A mohammedan shows its true colours [463 words] ↔阿穆罕默德显示其真面目 [463话] Istanbulchick Istanbulchick Sep 21, 2009 11:28 2009年9月21日11:28
↔Parda??? [38 words] ↔帕达？？？ [38话] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi谢默斯Dafydd潜水MacNemi Sep 24, 2009 17:08 2009年9月24日17时08分
↔A mohammedan shows its true colours [303 words] ↔阿穆罕默德显示其真面目 [303话] Emmanuel Etchells-Ayre埃马纽埃尔切尔斯，艾尔 Sep 25, 2009 17:36 2009年9月25日17:36
Explain this [79 words]这个解释 [79话] al基地 Sep 10, 2009 14:27 2009年9月10日14:27
↔Banning Burqa and Niqab - [24 words] ↔禁止Burqa和Niqab - [24话] Abdullah Serif阿卜杜拉衬线 Sep 11, 2009 10:19 2009年9月11日10:19
↔I doubt it. [20 words] ↔我对此表示怀疑。 [20话] VictoriousIsrael VictoriousIsrael Sep 11, 2009 12:55 2009年9月11日12:55
↔Biblical Explanation of the Phenomena of the Apostasy - How Wearing Islamic Mandated Clothing Does not Prevent Sin [480 words] ↔圣经解释的叛教的现象-如何穿着伊斯兰已获授权的服装不禁止罪恶 [480话] M. Tovey米托维 Sep 11, 2009 17:56 2009年9月11日17:56
↔Another victim of Arabian imperialism [251 words] ↔另一个帝国主义的受害者阿拉伯 [251话] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 12, 2009 17:00 2009年9月12日17:00
↔Let's be clear on who converts to islam "Al" [61 words] ↔让我们清楚的是伊斯兰教对谁转化为“基地” [61话] istanbulchick istanbulchick Sep 21, 2009 11:06 2009年9月21日11:06
↔Converts to Islam [44 words] ↔转换为伊斯兰教 [44话] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi谢默斯Dafydd潜水MacNemi Sep 24, 2009 17:12 2009年9月24日17:12
↔More of what we don't need [41 words] ↔更多的东西，我们不需要 [41话] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi谢默斯Dafydd潜水MacNemi Sep 24, 2009 17:19 2009年9月24日17:19
↔Again thank you Dhimmi No More [20 words] ↔再次感谢您迪米人没有更多的 [20字] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi谢默斯Dafydd潜水MacNemi Sep 24, 2009 17:24 2009年9月24日17:24
↔Converts and where to fnd them [43 words] ↔转换以及在何处国防军他们 [43话] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi谢默斯Dafydd潜水MacNemi Sep 24, 2009 17:29 2009年9月24日17:29
↔female "reverts" [62 words] ↔女性“回归” [62话] Istanbulchick Istanbulchick Sep 25, 2009 00:20 2009年9月25日00:20
↔Good thought Abdullah Serif [67 words] ↔良好的思想阿卜杜拉衬线 [67话] Klew Klew Oct 7, 2009 01:15 2009年10月7日01:15
↔Comment by Klew [127 words] ↔Klew评论由 [127话] Abdullah Serif阿卜杜拉衬线 Oct 9, 2009 11:17 2009年10月9日11:17
↔you have no klew [405 words] ↔你没有klew [405话] the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan大异教徒的卡菲里斯坦 Oct 11, 2009 16:33 2009年10月11日16:33
↔Hate if you want.. [73 words] ↔恨如果你想.. [73话] Abdullah Serif阿卜杜拉衬线 Oct 13, 2009 19:36 2009年10月13日19:36
↔He still has no klew [224 words] ↔他仍然没有klew [224话] the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan大异教徒的卡菲里斯坦 Oct 14, 2009 16:25 2009年10月14日16:25
The Sikh story: A case of double standards [224 words]锡克教的故事：一个标准的案件双 [224话] true believer真正的信徒 Sep 9, 2009 07:51 2009年9月9日07:51
↔Sikhs [306 words] ↔锡克教徒 [306话] Istanbulchick Istanbulchick Sep 28, 2009 01:54 2009年9月28日01:54
↔Of Kirpans and Bhurkas [138 words] ↔在短剑，Bhurkas [138话] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi谢默斯Dafydd潜水MacNemi Sep 28, 2009 20:20 2009年9月28日20:20
↔Speaking as an Irishman [103 words] ↔爱尔兰人说话，作为一个 [103话] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi谢默斯Dafydd潜水MacNemi Sep 29, 2009 22:58 2009年9月29日22:58
↔Re:Sikhs [528 words] ↔回复：锡克教徒 [528话] true believer真正的信徒 Sep 30, 2009 03:43 2009年9月30日03:43
↔Sikh history lesson [110 words] ↔锡克教的历史教训 [110话] Istanbulchick Istanbulchick Oct 1, 2009 02:14 2009年10月1日02:14
↔Mahatama Gandhi was killed by a Hindu not a Sikh. [49 words] ↔Mahatama甘地被杀害的不是一个印度教锡克教。 [49话] The Desciple该Desciple Oct 3, 2009 13:20 2009年10月3日13:20
↔I will answer your questions with some questions of my own.. ↔自己..我会回答你的问题与我的一些问题Reply awaited [92 words]等待回复 [92话] Proud Indian印度骄傲 Oct 21, 2009 03:29 2009年10月21日03:29
↔sikhs [84 words] ↔锡克教徒 [84话] kitty猫咪 Dec 11, 2009 20:55 2009年12月11日20:55
↔Reply [12 words] ↔回复 [12话] True Believer真正的信徒 May 30, 2010 18:20 2010年5月30日18:20
point! [43 words]点！ [43话] Mansoor曼苏尔 Sep 9, 2009 00:57 2009年9月9日00:57
↔Mansoor: Marvellously intelligent observation. ↔曼苏尔：Marvellously智能观察。You made my day! [70 words]你让我很快乐！ [70字] Plato柏拉图 Sep 10, 2009 08:19 2009年9月10日08:19
↔hahahahahaha Mansoor, i welcome your new avataar - as a comedian!!! [114 words] ↔hahahahahaha曼苏尔，我欢迎你新avataar -作为一个喜剧演员！ [114话] Proud Indian印度骄傲 Sep 11, 2009 06:24 2009年9月11日06:24
↔Muslim logic in action [94 words] ↔穆斯林逻辑的行动 [94话] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 12, 2009 17:03 2009年9月12日17:03
↔Burqa vs Helmet [60 words] ↔布卡比头盔 [60字] PC Mani电脑玛尼 Sep 12, 2009 23:53 2009年9月12日23:53
↔Dear Mansoor [21 words] ↔亲爱的曼苏尔 [21话] Hoor_Mashriq Hoor_Mashriq Sep 16, 2009 04:09 2009年9月16日04:09
↔Hoor Sahab, Very good advice!! [43 words] ↔朝Hoor萨希卜，非常好的建议！ [43话] Proud Indian印度骄傲 Sep 18, 2009 06:27 2009年9月18日06:27
↔Advice for you Proud Indian:) [67 words] ↔为你骄傲印度忠告：） [67话] Hoor_Mashriq Hoor_Mashriq Sep 21, 2009 03:45 2009年9月21日03:45
↔Hoor = Virgin of Paradise. ↔=天堂维尔京朝Hoor的。Nymph.尼弗。(Note: Has Pious Meaning, Not Slovenly.) [249 words]（注：有虔诚的意义，不马虎。） [249话] Plato柏拉图 Sep 24, 2009 02:30 2009年9月24日02:30
↔Banning Motor cycle helmets??? [67 words] ↔禁止摩托车头盔？？？ [67话] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi谢默斯Dafydd潜水MacNemi Sep 24, 2009 17:37 2009年9月24日17:37
↔Ohhhh... ↔天上...HOOR means those 72 Virgins in heaven??赫尔是指那些在天堂72处女？？is it??是什么呢？？Mashallah!!!Mashallah！Sorry !!!对不起！My Bad!!! [59 words]我的坏！ [59话] Proud Indian印度骄傲 Sep 25, 2009 09:50 2009年9月25日09:50
↔Thanks PLATO 4 telling me that i live in Middle East [478 words] ↔感谢柏拉图四告诉我，我住在中东 [478话] Eastern_Wind Eastern_Wind Sep 25, 2009 13:10 2009年9月25日13:10
↔Zakir naik is ignorant [754 words] ↔扎基尔奈克是无知 [754话] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 26, 2009 16:14 2009年9月26日16:14
↔The Quranic Hur 3ayn And here is my reference [216 words] ↔的古兰经胡尔3ayn这里是我的参考 [216话] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 26, 2009 16:51 2009年9月26日16:51
↔Eastern_Wind:Aap ne mujhe achha sabak sikhaya [849 words] ↔Eastern_Wind：AAP的东北mujhe achha萨巴克sikhaya [849话] Plato柏拉图 Sep 26, 2009 22:04 2009年9月26日22:04
↔Mr Pipe's personality [94 words] ↔管先生的人格 [94话] Eastern_Wind Eastern_Wind Sep 27, 2009 10:10 2009年9月27日10:10
↔An addendum [252 words] ↔的增编 [252话] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 27, 2009 17:30 2009年9月27日17:30
↔According to what my folks taught me [613 words] ↔据我父母教我 [613话] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemis谢默斯Dafydd潜水MacNemis Sep 28, 2009 23:06 2009年9月28日23:06
↔Ephrem the Syrians and hur 3ayn and plagiarism [243 words] ↔厄弗雷姆叙利亚人和户珥3ayn和剽窃 [243话] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 29, 2009 07:48 2009年9月29日07:48
↔Dear Plato [190 words] ↔亲爱的柏拉图 [190话] Easren_Wind Easren_Wind Sep 29, 2009 12:11 2009年9月29日12:11
↔Eastern Wind: Haan, mai bhi insaan hoon [49 words] ↔东方风：哈恩，迈BHI的insaan勋 [49话] Plato柏拉图 Oct 1, 2009 04:42 2009年10月1日04:42
In response to veil story. [71 words]在回应面纱的故事。 [71话] Brainless Banana愚笨香蕉 Sep 7, 2009 02:17 2009年9月7日02:17
Ban the Hijap [90 words]禁止Hijap [90话] Christian Mohamad Benedictos ????? ???? ???????基督教穆罕默德贝内迪克托斯???????????????? Sep 5, 2009 17:25 2009年9月5日17:25
↔Every person has the Freedom of Choice. [111 words] ↔每个人都有选择的自由，。 [111话] Mohammad, CPA穆罕默德，注册会计师 Sep 7, 2009 02:33 2009年9月7日02:33
↔Mohammad - champion of women's rights and freedm?? [226 words] ↔穆罕默德- freedm冠军，妇女的权利和？？ [226话] Jaladhi Jaladhi Sep 7, 2009 21:19 2009年9月7日21:19
↔go back to our home.... [10 words] ↔回到我们的家.... [10话] mike话筒 Sep 8, 2009 03:19 2009年9月8日03:19
↔Oh great! [346 words] ↔哦，太棒了！ [346话] Mansoor曼苏尔 Sep 9, 2009 01:07 2009年9月9日01:07
↔Mohammed, CPA: Most Muslims nations impose a dress code on women [356 words] ↔穆罕默德，注册会计师：大多数穆斯林国家对妇女施加代码衣服 [356话] Plato柏拉图 Sep 10, 2009 09:08 2009年9月10日09:08
↔Mansoor, past is past, we have moved forward. ↔曼苏尔，过去的已经过去了，我们已经向前发展的。Have you?? [110 words]是吗？？ [110话] Proud Indian印度骄傲 Sep 11, 2009 07:57 2009年9月11日07:57
↔Every person has the Freedom of Choice [212 words] ↔每个人都有选择的自由， [212话] mo莫 Sep 15, 2009 16:45 2009年9月15日16:45
↔SS etc [136 words] ↔不锈钢等 [136话] the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan大异教徒的卡菲里斯坦 Sep 15, 2009 21:50 2009年9月15日21:50
↔Rights [159 words] ↔权利 [159话] istanbulchick istanbulchick Sep 21, 2009 11:38 2009年9月21日11:38
↔On dress codes and personal desires [63 words] ↔对服饰的守则和个人欲望 [63话] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi谢默斯Dafydd潜水MacNemi Sep 24, 2009 18:09 2009年9月24日18:09
↔Massacres- Does it really matter who is doing what to whom? [49 words] ↔大屠杀，难道真的不管谁是谁做什么？ [49话] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi谢默斯Dafydd潜水MacNemi Sep 24, 2009 18:17 2009年9月24日18:17
↔Books??? ↔书籍？？？hmmm- The Bible and Das Kapital?? [15 words]嗯，圣经和资本论？？ [15字] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi谢默斯Dafydd潜水MacNemi Sep 24, 2009 18:24 2009年9月24日18:24
↔Every person has the Freedom of Choice. ↔每个人都有选择的自由，。by Mohammad, CPA [42 words]由穆罕默德，注册会计师 [42话] Emmanuel Etchells-Ayre埃马纽埃尔切尔斯，艾尔 Sep 25, 2009 17:51 2009年9月25日17:51
↔CRITICISM FOR THE SAKE OF CRITICISM IS NOT A GOOD BEHAVIOR FOR EVERYONE. [143 words] ↔批评的批评作者是为了不是每个人都有好处行为。 [143话] Mohammad, CPA穆罕默德，注册会计师 Oct 10, 2009 01:38 09年10月10日01:38
↔Mohammed, CPA: It is the Koran which does not show any decency or respect for non-Muslim beliefs [425 words] ↔穆罕默德，注册会计师：这是可兰经不显示任何尊严和信仰的尊重非穆斯林 [425话] Plato柏拉图 Oct 14, 2009 21:51 2009年10月14日21:51
The burqa as deed and spore [376 words]孢子布卡作为契约及 [376话] Paul M.保罗米 Sep 5, 2009 14:15 2009年9月5日14:15
↔do they have any real use? [85 words] ↔他们有任何实际用处呢？ [85话] the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan大异教徒的卡菲里斯坦 Sep 6, 2009 16:59 2009年9月6日16:59
↔Why not accept police wearing Burqa's ? [32 words] ↔为什么不接受警方穿罩袍的？ [32话] Harry掠夺 Sep 8, 2009 13:59 2009年9月8日13:59
If you ban them down, they shall become more numerous than you could possibly imagine. [130 words]如果你禁止他们失望，他们将成为更多了可能比你想像的。 [130话] Alain Jean-Mairet阿兰让梅雷 Sep 5, 2009 07:13 2009年9月5日07:13
A veiled woman as harbinger of ... [179 words]一个含蓄的女人，预示着... [179话] G. Vishvas湾Vishvas Sep 4, 2009 21:31 2009年9月4日21:31
BURQAS IN BALTIMORE [127 words]在巴尔的摩面纱 [127话] Alvina Balog阿尔维纳巴罗格 Sep 4, 2009 13:07 2009年9月4日13:07
The Burqa is for Pussies [177 words]布卡是Pussies 177字] [ Alain Jean-Mairet阿兰让梅雷 Sep 4, 2009 10:46 2009年9月4日10:46
Golda [19 words]戈尔达 [19话] pdm产品数据管理 Sep 4, 2009 09:19 2009年9月4日09:19
Who Says What Islam Requires? [193 words]谁说什么伊斯兰教要求？ [193话] Alain Jean-Mairet阿兰让梅雷 Sep 4, 2009 04:08 2009年9月4日04:08
↔Who cares what Islam requires in our country!!! [126 words] ↔谁在乎伊斯兰国家要求在我们的！ [126话] Jaladhi Jaladhi Sep 7, 2009 16:00 2009年9月7日16:00
↔On the Koran [51 words] ↔在古兰经 [51话] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi谢默斯Dafydd潜水MacNemi Sep 24, 2009 18:48 2009年9月24日18:48
The Nakedness of Women is the work of God [392 words]妇女裸的就是神的工作 [392话] Salah Ali萨拉赫阿里 Sep 3, 2009 10:10 2009年9月3日10:10
↔Salah Ali: At last an honest-to-goodness honest Muslim, YOU. [1279 words] ↔萨拉赫阿里：在最后一正，善良诚实的穆斯林，你。 [1279字] Plato柏拉图 Sep 5, 2009 09:41 2009年9月5日09:41
↔The Nakedness of Women is the Work of Man [215 words] ↔妇女裸的就是人的工作 [215话] Salah Ali萨拉赫阿里 Sep 7, 2009 01:47 2009年9月7日01:47
↔the warm and fuzzy Islam is not what we're talking about [290 words] ↔的温暖和模糊伊斯兰教不是我们所谈论的 [290话] the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan大异教徒的卡菲里斯坦 Sep 7, 2009 22:14 2009年9月7日22:14
↔We are the world, We are the Men, Women and Children! [407 words] ↔我们是世界，我们是男人，妇女和儿童！ [407话] Salah Ali萨拉赫阿里 Sep 8, 2009 01:51 2009年9月8日01:51
↔Salah Ali: Re Nakedness of women. ↔萨拉赫阿里：妇女再裸的。Many more interesting details about Muslims and Islam [1618 words]还有更多有趣的细节对穆斯林和伊斯兰教 [1618字] Plato柏拉图 Sep 8, 2009 10:21 2009年9月8日10:21
↔you who [234 words] ↔你谁 [234话] the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan大异教徒的卡菲里斯坦 Sep 8, 2009 21:27 2009年9月8日21:27
↔Practice what you preach [66 words] ↔实践你的教义 [66话] Jaladhi Jaladhi Sep 9, 2009 10:25 2009年9月9日10:25
↔Jihad means salvation of Self and the Other [245 words] ↔圣战手段拯救自我与他者 [245话] Salah Ali萨拉赫阿里 Sep 11, 2009 08:52 2009年9月11日08:52
↔Blessed be God the Lord of the Worlds: [261 words] ↔是应当称颂耶和华神的世界的： [261话] Salah Ali萨拉赫阿里 Sep 11, 2009 09:10 2009年9月11日09:10
↔Salah Ali: Criticism is a vital part of free expression [1715 words] ↔萨拉赫阿里：批评是一个自由表达的重要组成部分 [1715字] Plato柏拉图 Sep 11, 2009 11:03 2009年9月11日11:03
↔FOR SALAH ALI [416 words] ↔的萨拉赫急性肺损伤 [416话] DEBORAH THE JUDGE监护权，法官 Sep 12, 2009 20:32 2009年9月12日20:32
↔so kind [521 words] ↔非常善良 [521话] the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan大异教徒的卡菲里斯坦 Sep 12, 2009 22:06 2009年9月12日22:06
↔pineapples and oranges [407 words] ↔菠萝和桔子 [407话] the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan大异教徒的卡菲里斯坦 Sep 12, 2009 23:21 2009年9月12日23:21
↔How can I express the expressable? [516 words] ↔我怎样才能表达expressable？ [516话] Salah Ali萨拉赫阿里 Sep 13, 2009 04:27 2009年9月13日04:27
↔Salah Ali: Your claim about apes and oranges being made to fit man had me in fits [483 words] ↔萨拉赫阿里：您的桔子索赔有关猿和人正适合了适合我在 [483话] Plato柏拉图 Sep 13, 2009 13:42 2009年9月13日13:42
↔Salah Ali: Jihad and Jiziya are meant to humiliate non-Muslims [1851 words] ↔萨拉赫阿里：圣战组织和Jiziya是为了羞辱非穆斯林 [1851字] Plato柏拉图 Sep 13, 2009 23:17 2009年9月13日23:17
↔A different form of expression [295 words] ↔阿不同的表达形式 [295话] true believer真正的信徒 Sep 14, 2009 06:08 2009年9月14日06:08
↔Our dear so called Salah Ali and the Islamic sources [593 words] ↔我们亲爱的所谓萨拉赫阿里和伊斯兰来源 [593话] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 14, 2009 08:04 2009年9月14日08:04
↔Even Einstein ended up with approximations [697 words] ↔即使爱因斯坦结束了与逼近 [697话] Salah Ali萨拉赫阿里 Sep 14, 2009 08:46 2009年9月14日08:46
↔Salh ali's gobbledygook!!! [191 words] ↔Salh阿里的教条！ [191话] Jaladhi Jaladhi Sep 14, 2009 15:05 2009年9月14日15:05
↔Theology Cannot - Does Not - Resolve Itself in Darwinian Exposition [531 words] ↔神学不能-不-达尔文博览会自行解决在 [531话] M. Tovey米托维 Sep 14, 2009 19:44 2009年9月14日19:44
↔Jihad and the islamic crusades revisited and islamic delusions [971 words] ↔和伊斯兰圣战组织和伊斯兰的十字军重新妄想 [971话] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 18, 2009 06:54 2009年9月18日06:54
↔ ⇒ Salah Ali: Philosophy is wasted on me. ↔⇒萨拉赫阿里：哲学是浪费了我。 Koran translations are a waste too [3002 words] 古兰经翻译是一种浪费太多 [3002字] Plato柏拉图 Sep 19, 2009 13:05 2009年9月19日13:05
↔Cherry picking time and our dear salah al-tablighee [546 words] ↔樱桃采摘时间和我们亲爱的萨拉赫丁tablighee [546话] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 20, 2009 14:18 2009年9月20日14:18
↔womens nakedness ETC /Salah Ali ! ↔妇女赤裸手续/萨拉赫阿里！[:oP [282 words][：运算 [282话] Emmanuel Etchells-Ayre埃马纽埃尔切尔斯，艾尔 Sep 20, 2009 22:53 2009年9月20日22:53
↔Devil is in the details! [578 words] ↔魔鬼在细节！ [578话] Salah Ali萨拉赫阿里 Sep 22, 2009 03:39 2009年9月22日03:39
↔How can I make you see what I can see? [435 words] ↔我怎样才能让你看看我能看到什么？ [435话] Salah Ali萨拉赫阿里 Sep 22, 2009 04:24 2009年9月22日04:24
↔Muslim coming to their senses. [317 words] ↔穆斯林来到他们的感官。 [317话] the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan大异教徒的卡菲里斯坦 Sep 22, 2009 04:45 2009年9月22日04:45
↔Our dear Salah and dis bogus so called proverb [87 words] ↔我们亲爱的萨拉赫，解散所谓假谚语 [87话] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 22, 2009 19:35 2009年9月22日19:35
↔So where do you teach Arabic our dear salah Ali? [33 words] ↔那么，你教我们亲爱的阿拉伯语萨拉赫阿里？ [33话] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 22, 2009 19:41 2009年9月22日19:41
↔Devil is in the details. [359 words] ↔魔鬼在细节。 [359话] Emmanuel Etchells-Ayre埃马纽埃尔切尔斯，艾尔 Sep 23, 2009 04:08 2009年9月23日04:08
↔The islamic paradise virgins wine and ghulman! [107 words] ↔伊斯兰天堂处女葡萄酒和ghulman！ [107话] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 23, 2009 08:14 2009年9月23日08:14
↔Salah Ali: You are saying for non-Muslims the Koran has as many meanings as there are translations [2390 words] ↔萨拉赫阿里：你是穆斯林说非可兰经有许多含义，因为是翻译 [2390字] Plato柏拉图 Sep 24, 2009 00:13 2009年9月24日00:13
↔Pornography in the west and elsewhere [55 words] ↔色情西部地区和其他地区 [55话] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Sep 24, 2009 19:04
↔Islam and introspection [38 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Sep 24, 2009 19:27
↔Jizya?? HA! [113 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Sep 24, 2009 20:34
↔Never to stop dialogue [622 words] Salah Ali Sep 25, 2009 01:32
↔Books again! HA! [367 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Sep 25, 2009 03:00
↔HELL?? Ha Ha Ha Ha! [111 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Sep 25, 2009 03:27
↔Seeing through the Eye of Gd [165 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Sep 25, 2009 03:59
↔Mr. ↔先生Tovey--- PLEASE! [125 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Sep 25, 2009 04:16
↔No mathematics in belief??? ↔在信仰没有数学？？？HA! [25 words]哈！ [25字] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi谢默斯Dafydd潜水MacNemi Sep 25, 2009 04:46 2009年9月25日04:46
↔Intoxicated by babble [39 words] ↔陶醉在胡言乱语 ] [39话 Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi谢默斯Dafydd潜水MacNemi Sep 25, 2009 05:14 2009年9月25日05:14
↔Alas for the poor Arab [69 words] ↔唉穷人的阿拉伯 ] [69话 Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi谢默斯Dafydd潜水MacNemi Sep 25, 2009 05:26 2009年9月25日05:26
↔Pleading Acknowledged - Yet Biblcal Truth Cannot be Ignored. [1030 words] ↔起诉承认-然而Biblcal真理不能被忽视。 [1030字] M. Tovey米托维 Sep 25, 2009 18:31 2009年9月25日18:31
↔Life is an Eternal Celebration [324 words] ↔生活是一个永恒的纪念 [324话] Salah Ali萨拉赫阿里 Sep 26, 2009 08:48 2009年9月26日08:48
↔the profane and the sacred [158 words] ↔世俗和神圣 [158话] Salah Ali萨拉赫阿里 Sep 26, 2009 08:58 2009年9月26日08:58
↔Salah Ali: Your posts reveal your mind is evolving away from black rams doing their job to more speculative stuff [2749 words] Plato柏拉图 Sep 26, 2009 22:45
↔Let's go on with dialogue. [125 words] Salah Ali萨拉赫阿里 Sep 28, 2009 04:06
↔More issues [513 words] Salah Ali Sep 28, 2009 07:31
↔My Dear Salah Ali [104 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Sep 28, 2009 23:22
↔Mr. ↔先生Tovey--- PLEASE! [477 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Sep 29, 2009 00:09
↔And what is the symbol for infinity? [76 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Sep 29, 2009 22:03
↔Ah my dear Salah [187 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Sep 29, 2009 22:35
↔Zero is the beginning and end of all mathematics! [541 words] Salah Ali Sep 30, 2009 06:51
↔Mr.Tovey---again [742 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Sep 30, 2009 10:09
↔AI Salah?? [149 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Oct 1, 2009 01:53
↔Salah Ali: Negating Allah will lead to negating superstition [561 words] Plato柏拉图 Oct 1, 2009 04:27
↔Salah Ali: Negating Allah will lead to negating superstition [692 words] Plato柏拉图 Oct 1, 2009 23:37
↔Salah Ali: From quarreling about Niqabs we are now dueling about dualism. [2441 words] Plato柏拉图 Oct 1, 2009 23:45
↔God encourages difference [241 words] Salah Ali Oct 2, 2009 03:02
↔nothing to prove [639 words] the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan Oct 3, 2009 21:04
↔Again to Salah Ali [243 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Oct 3, 2009 23:07
↔I see eye to eye with you [80 words] Salah Ali Oct 5, 2009 01:33 2009年10月5日01:33
↔To Salah Ali [75 words] ↔要萨拉赫阿里 [75话] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi谢默斯Dafydd潜水MacNemi Oct 6, 2009 18:56 2009年10月6日18:56
↔Yes, sharing views is a bless [92 words] Salah Ali Oct 7, 2009 01:51
↔Almighty God Encourages Nothing that Contradicts His Spoken and Written WORD - The Hebrew Holy Bible [774 words] M. Tovey Oct 8, 2009 12:39
↔To Salah Ali [159 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Oct 8, 2009 20:50
↔Who is wise but YHWH [258 words] Lynn林恩 Oct 9, 2009 10:21
↔To lynn [201 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Oct 11, 2009 17:26
↔How things will look in Afterlife [498 words] Salah Ali Oct 12, 2009 09:42
↔I know more of Human pains than Gods' secrets [218 words] Salah Ali Oct 12, 2009 10:03
↔The Afterlife in a Christian's Life Follows the Truth of Jesus Christ in His Holy Bible - Not a Fable of a Different Sort. [662 words] M. Tovey Oct 13, 2009 19:34
↔muslim eschatology [453 words] the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan Oct 13, 2009 21:36
↔I am sorry Salah Ali [164 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Oct 14, 2009 02:29
↔Salah Ali: Your sufi ramblings end with a show of your Islamic fangs [1002 words] Plato柏拉图 Oct 14, 2009 08:55
↔Paul [195 words] Lynn林恩 Oct 14, 2009 12:06
↔Who cares? [101 words] Salah Ali Oct 14, 2009 16:17
↔See better Lear? [22 words] Salah Ali Oct 14, 2009 16:21
↔Drinking leads writing astray [38 words] Salah Ali Oct 14, 2009 16:26
↔Imagine there's no heavens [17 words] Salah Ali Oct 14, 2009 16:29
↔To Lynn-- The word of GD did hold true for those who held to it [175 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Oct 14, 2009 20:16
↔Our dear salah Ali who lives among infldels and whose wellfare check and the cost of his health care are paid by infidles [162 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Oct 15, 2009 18:57
↔Where do you get your information? This seems to me to be just Islamic propaganda with little factual evidence to back it up. [93 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Oct 17, 2009 12:05
↔Oh the Muslim crusades and Arabian imperialism and why do you live in Norway our dear So called Salah Ali? [97 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Oct 17, 2009 12:13
↔Salah Ali: There are better sites than Danielpipes to practice English composition [105 words] Plato柏拉图 Oct 19, 2009 00:58
↔Hebrew Holy Bible is Truth - Then and Now -Forever [792 words] M. Tovey Oct 20, 2009 16:49
↔Mr. ↔先生Tovey, How can you be so ignorant of actual Jewish history? [251 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Oct 21, 2009 23:15
↔Does Not the Holy Writ Tell the Truth About Judaism? The Commandment is to Believe Him in His Truth, in His Holy WORD. [970 words] M. Tovey Oct 22, 2009 18:34
↔We must remember Mr. MacNemi [198 words] Lynn林恩 Oct 22, 2009 19:45
↔To Lynn [86 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Oct 23, 2009 02:15
↔With all due respect to Mr. Tovey [988 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Oct 24, 2009 11:25
↔The true order. [177 words] Lynn林恩 Oct 24, 2009 11:52
↔The Hebrew Holy Bible Requires Obedience to His WORD - Whether Humanly Understood or Not [1555 words] M. Tovey Oct 26, 2009 17:14
↔I cannot fault your faith Mr. Tovey [685 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Oct 27, 2009 20:29
↔Faith is All I Have-is the TRUE Source of My Life [993 words] M. Tovey Oct 29, 2009 16:30
↔I realize that I must be careful in this matter [844 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Oct 30, 2009 11:06
↔Searching for Truth Always Requires Careful Attention [1414 words] M. Tovey Nov 3, 2009 13:39
↔Different paths to the same destination [671 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Nov 5, 2009 01:53
↔The Destination of Eternity in Him is Found by Following His Path Thought His Righteousness [838 words] M. Tovey Nov 9, 2009 18:00
↔Things both felt and observed beyond the ordinary [266 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Nov 10, 2009 22:40
↔Hello..Here comes Plato again! [670 words] Salah Ali Nov 12, 2009 09:07
↔A Different Observation - [136 words] M. Tovey Nov 17, 2009 19:25
↔Still, I think we must be careful [69 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Nov 18, 2009 21:07
↔Salah Ali: Islam destroy the power to think logically in Muslims [2026 words] Plato柏拉图 Nov 22, 2009 03:17
↔Careful to Seek Truth and Not Veil It in the Face of the Enemy [571 words] M. Tovey Nov 24, 2009 11:24
↔Mr. ↔先生Tovey You in your way and me in mine [90 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Nov 24, 2009 22:04
↔Belief will be the Critical Difference [338 words] M. Tovey Dec 2, 2009 12:32
↔G-Ds Word [166 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Dec 6, 2009 18:40
↔What is Written By His Command is the Acceptable Basis of Faith [354 words] M. Tovey Dec 7, 2009 13:11
↔All of it was already written before Moses went up the mountain [85 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Dec 8, 2009 14:54
↔Where is it Written that Mankind Thinks as Almighty Gd? [490 words] M. Tovey Dec 14, 2009 15:42
↔I do not need a book to know GD [280 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Dec 15, 2009 20:48
↔According to His Holy WORD, I do. [834 words] M. Tovey Dec 28, 2009 16:22
↔My final word in this matter! [1 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Dec 29, 2009 11:58
↔And Mine For You - Shalom [417 words] M. Tovey Dec 30, 2009 11:22
↔The King's Return Cannot be Hidden - There is Only One Path for His Return to Jerusalem [1372 words] M .Tovey Apr 12, 2010 14:37
↔Two sets of eyes view the same light each from his own perspective yet neither view is wrong. [264 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Apr 12, 2010 22:31
Niqabs and Burqas - The Veiled Threat Continues [102 words] Fazal Habib Curmally Sep 3, 2009 06:07
A lot of disguising in the Muslim world. [165 words] batya dagan Sep 2, 2009 21:58
Indecent unexposure [431 words] RK RK Sep 2, 2009 15:25
How about school kids wearing Hijab/Niqab/Burka ? [61 words] Harry掠夺 Sep 2, 2009 15:08
Ban them now [96 words] Peter, Scotland Sep 2, 2009 14:44
Where's the necessity to wear niqabs and burqas in UK or Philadelphia, PA? [163 words] MD医师 Sep 2, 2009 14:41
I loved the strength in Dr. Pipe's conclusion [37 words] Ynnatchkah Ynnatchkah Sep 2, 2009 14:34
Islamic dress [22 words] Janusz Kowalik Sep 2, 2009 14:06
Freedom of Dress [84 words] J Sheff Sep 2, 2009 13:42
↔Sorry, but I had to laugh at your comparison... [280 words] sara萨拉 Sep 2, 2009 18:33
↔superbly expressed [57 words] Ron Thompson罗恩汤普森 Sep 2, 2009 20:58
↔Glad I made you laugh, now think! [106 words] J Sheff Sep 2, 2009 21:20
↔Ok, JSheff, Let's have a real discussion about this [343 words] sara萨拉 Sep 3, 2009 01:30
↔freedom of duress [68 words] Lynn林恩 Sep 3, 2009 09:54
↔More thoughts on criminalizing dress [448 words] JSheff Sep 3, 2009 11:45
↔Ostracism and Feminism [446 words] sara萨拉 Sep 4, 2009 17:42
↔Muslim woman do not have a choice--they are forced/brainwashed/bullied to wear a burqa [300 words] Harry掠夺 Sep 5, 2009 02:45
↔Cohesiveness, conformity, and privacy [507 words] J. Sheff Sep 6, 2009 16:28
↔Freedom of expression vs. security and societal norms- JSheff [1089 words] sara萨拉 Sep 6, 2009 19:54
↔Ending on a note of "agreement" [179 words] J. Sheff Sep 7, 2009 00:33
↔A very well reasoned arguement [42 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Sep 25, 2009 06:46
↔Seamus, thanks [504 words] sara萨拉 Sep 25, 2009 17:18
↔Shalom Sarah [368 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Sep 29, 2009 01:11
An Additional Reason? [289 words] Ron Thompson罗恩汤普森 Sep 2, 2009 12:11
the niqab is a symbol of oppression. .09' [33 words] Phil Greend菲尔Greend Sep 2, 2009 12:10
Query on "Niqab and Burqas"
[w/response] [30 words] John Measor Sep 2, 2009 11:51
RE: Article [213 words] Bilal比拉尔 Sep 2, 2009 11:27
↔Bilal has revealed the heart of the matter for all to see [180 words] Philip菲利普 Sep 3, 2009 05:07
↔Bilal: How black is your Islamic kettle [1401 words] Plato柏拉图 Sep 3, 2009 06:37
↔Love it or leave it. [224 words] Pozzie Sep 3, 2009 13:01
↔Bilal's Comments [271 words] portuguesamericano Sep 3, 2009 15:34
↔freedom - the power to determine action without restraint of ANY kind [765 words] the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan Sep 3, 2009 23:39
↔Great comment - portuguesamericano!!! [350 words] Jaladhi Jaladhi Sep 5, 2009 17:08
↔RE: Plato [625 words] Bilal比拉尔 Sep 6, 2009 20:06
↔Bilal: You failed to tell us what happened to the rapists and torturers you have listed. What are you trying to hide? [2296 words] Plato柏拉图 Sep 8, 2009 05:34
↔more hypocrisy from the UK [377 words] the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan Sep 8, 2009 06:37
↔Bilal's comments RE: Plato [116 words] portuguesamericano Sep 8, 2009 12:46
↔RE: Plato [574 words] Bilal比拉尔 Sep 9, 2009 05:02
↔Our dear so called Bilal who lives among infidels [145 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 9, 2009 07:24
↔The answer is simple, Plato!! [25 words] Jaladhi Jaladhi Sep 9, 2009 10:32
↔RE: dhimmi no more [141 words] Bilal比拉尔 Sep 9, 2009 22:24
↔brain chemistry/hormonal imbalance [231 words] the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan Sep 9, 2009 23:04
↔Bilal: More about kaffirs being natural liars, war being deceit, sharia etc [3917 words] Plato柏拉图 Sep 10, 2009 08:12
↔In memory of the victims of the 9/11 atrocity [742 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 11, 2009 07:08
↔In memory of the victims of Islamo-fascism [273 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 11, 2009 07:40
↔Arabian imperialism and its vicitms [228 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 11, 2009 17:02
↔RE: Plato [886 words] Bilal比拉尔 Sep 13, 2009 13:18
↔Bilal' exposed [659 words] true believer Sep 14, 2009 05:26
↔Kudos to Bilal [179 words] nisar Ahmed india Sep 14, 2009 06:00
↔RE: dhimmi no more [633 words] Bilal比拉尔 Sep 14, 2009 07:39
↔wakey, wakey [758 words] the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan Sep 14, 2009 17:58
↔Our dear Bilal al-tablighee knows no Arabic inspite of the fact that the Qur'an says that Islam is the religion of the arabs only [873 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 15, 2009 07:30
↔Bilal: Standard Muslim reply. If you don't like what Muslims do claim they are not Muslim [3017 words] Plato柏拉图 Sep 16, 2009 00:04
↔Nisar Ahmed: Muhammad is accredited by the "so called Holy Bible". [497 words] Plato柏拉图 Sep 16, 2009 00:57
↔Our dear Bilal and more sordid matters [637 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 16, 2009 07:12
↔And here are my links [70 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 16, 2009 07:23
↔RE: dhimmi no more [356 words] Bilal比拉尔 Sep 16, 2009 08:53
↔Hello Dhimmi: Give Bilal a translation of the Last Sermon from the original [93 words] Plato柏拉图 Sep 16, 2009 22:16
↔Dear Bilal(story from an islamic society) [1476 words] Munkir-e-koran Sep 17, 2009 11:30
↔Muhammad's last sermon is very much anachronistic [456 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 17, 2009 19:54
↔Our dear Bilal the wannabe arab and speaking of psychiatrists [445 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 17, 2009 20:21
↔Coward ranting under the cover of anonymity [327 words] true believer Sep 18, 2009 06:38
↔RE: Plato [28 words] Bilal比拉尔 Sep 18, 2009 11:59
↔Dear Nisar, Did Jesus disgrace women more then .... [105 words] out of this world离开这个世界 Sep 19, 2009 04:10
↔The correct link re: the perverse sexual habits of the prophet! What a fadiha or scandal [45 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 19, 2009 07:52
↔Muhammad's so called last sermon and the hidden hands of the persians in shaping islam the religion of the Arabs [515 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 19, 2009 09:06
↔dhimmi no more: Hope Bilal reads this [21 words] Plato柏拉图 Sep 19, 2009 23:31
↔Bilal: Thank you informing us that Muslims are exclusive club (cult?) [249 words] Plato柏拉图 Sep 19, 2009 23:43
↔Our dear Bilal the salafi and the jihadi and his little gem [69 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 20, 2009 07:39
↔Bilal's profile is the same as that of Salah Ali [250 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 20, 2009 14:38
↔Hello dhimmi [46 words] Simon西蒙 Sep 20, 2009 15:09
↔RE: [43 words] Bilal比拉尔 Sep 20, 2009 16:10
↔RE: Pretend Paki [75 words] Bilal比拉尔 Sep 20, 2009 16:21
↔RE: always a dhimmi [128 words] Bilal比拉尔 Sep 21, 2009 19:11
↔Re:Bilal's profile is the same as that of Salah Ali [156 words] true believer Sep 22, 2009 04:12
↔RE:RE: Pretend Pak [57 words] true believer Sep 22, 2009 04:46
↔the word al-shari3a [369 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 22, 2009 07:59
↔Dear Bilal [359 words] munkir-e-koran Sep 22, 2009 12:30
↔pie in the sky piety [86 words] the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan Sep 23, 2009 22:45
↔RE: true wanker [57 words] Bilal比拉尔 Sep 24, 2009 06:45
↔RE: true wanker [157 words] Bilal比拉尔 Sep 24, 2009 07:03
↔Our dear Bilal and more evidence that the so called last sermon is anachronistic and it is from his own words [421 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 24, 2009 07:14
↔AI! Bilal... [120 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Sep 25, 2009 07:03
↔The profile of our dear Bilal the jihadi [414 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 25, 2009 07:41
↔muslima [31 words] true believer Sep 25, 2009 07:48
↔bilall [280 words] true believer Sep 25, 2009 08:42
↔Ah, so now the truth is revealed [28 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Sep 25, 2009 09:06
↔His words will condemn him [68 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Sep 25, 2009 09:12
↔The more you talk the more you incriminate yourself [77 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Sep 25, 2009 10:13
↔RE: A true incestuous kaafir [38 words] Bilal比拉尔 Sep 25, 2009 17:22
↔RE: Plato by Bilal [389 words] Emmanuel Etchells-Ayre Sep 25, 2009 18:43
↔RE: Article by Bilal [173 words] Emmanuel Etchells-Ayre Sep 25, 2009 18:56
↔Cherry picking time and our dear Bilal al-jihadi [115 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 26, 2009 18:11
↔Cherry picking time and our dear Bilal al-jihadi part deux [133 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 26, 2009 20:12
↔Dhimmi [18 words] Svet斯韦特 Sep 27, 2009 02:21
↔truly hypocrite [165 words] true believer Sep 29, 2009 04:02
↔Thank you [39 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 29, 2009 07:52
↔dhimmi no more: You are always interesting to read [45 words] Plato柏拉图 Sep 29, 2009 10:03
↔Aye Dhimmi No More [32 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Sep 29, 2009 22:47
↔I agree with Plato but dhimmi knows this [13 words] Simon西蒙 Oct 3, 2009 14:18
↔dhimmi no more: your help needed once again [121 words] Plato柏拉图 Oct 8, 2009 02:53
↔Q30:21 [231 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Oct 9, 2009 07:29
↔Great help [96 words] Plato柏拉图 Oct 12, 2009 02:08
↔Yusuf Ali's translation is a poor translation [617 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Oct 13, 2009 20:47
↔Hi Plato: you must check this one out and: Breast feeding of the adult [122 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Nov 1, 2009 08:23
↔dhimmi no more: Embarrassing to Muslims [19 words] Plato柏拉图 Nov 5, 2009 02:54
Objectification [153 words] huck Sep 2, 2009 10:59
Burqa or Bikini [408 words] Iftikhar Sep 2, 2009 07:49
↔Iftikhar: Read what happens to burqa clad women in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia [2001 words] Plato柏拉图 Sep 3, 2009 04:09
↔not banning the burkha is an insult to the people Islamists pretend to integrate with [1598 words] the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan Sep 3, 2009 07:17
↔Reasons??? [113 words] Jeff杰夫 Sep 3, 2009 11:51
↔Iftikhar's comments [270 words] portuguesamericano Sep 3, 2009 16:04
↔Islamophobia [393 words] emir埃米尔 Sep 7, 2009 05:26
↔Read what happens to burqa clad women in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia [155 words] nisar khan(india) Sep 14, 2009 02:19
↔Truth About Source of Islamophobia [432 words] M. Tovey Sep 15, 2009 12:26
↔Nisar Khan: You are Indian. Remember the Imrana rape case when you reply. [359 words] Plato柏拉图 Sep 16, 2009 00:45
↔Source of the "Truth about source of Islamophobia" [387 words] Emir埃米尔 Sep 16, 2009 08:56
↔....there may be many things that one can criticize about Muslims ..... [774 words] the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan Sep 16, 2009 17:41
↔Plato ,Dhimmi Exposed [481 words] Nisar,Bilal Sep 17, 2009 06:58
↔Extremist Zionism vs Extremist Islamism [703 words] M. Tovey Sep 17, 2009 11:43
↔You do the same things. Only .. [45 words] true believer Sep 18, 2009 04:42
↔Emir: Read about the 'ethical demands' of Islam [1196 words] Plato柏拉图 Sep 19, 2009 05:08
↔Nisar, Bilal: As defenders of Islam you can you do better than refer me to Zakir Naik [2439 words] Plato柏拉图 Sep 20, 2009 03:46
↔Oh another wannabe arab [153 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 20, 2009 14:47
↔Islamophobia? really? [624 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 20, 2009 17:53
↔The Need for a Sinful Humanity to Repent in Jesus Christ Exposed [889 words] M. Tovey Sep 22, 2009 12:51
↔dhimmi no more [328 words] ameer_r2 Sep 22, 2009 23:30
↔harmony? [790 words] the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan Sep 24, 2009 00:31
↔agree and disagree [414 words] mingocat Sep 24, 2009 11:15
↔to Grand Kafir [655 words] Ameer_r2 Sep 25, 2009 11:28
↔you can prove just about anything w statistics [1525 words] the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan Sep 25, 2009 22:09
↔Our dear Emir and the source behind the source [612 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 26, 2009 09:37
↔There is such thing as reasonable Muslims? Really? [179 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 26, 2009 09:52
↔the grandiose Grand Infidel of Kafiristan [151 words] ameer_r2 Sep 27, 2009 17:30
↔bon voyage [351 words] the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan Sep 27, 2009 23:15
↔Allah and smoking and other sodid matters [495 words] dhimmi no more迪米人没有更多的 Sep 28, 2009 07:17
↔I think I hear GD Laughing [295 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Sep 29, 2009 02:31
↔NAIK?? A most unfornate choice of names [500 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Sep 29, 2009 04:09
↔Here we go again alas [124 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Sep 29, 2009 04:36
↔The self professed son of an apostate speaks [117 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Sep 29, 2009 04:50
↔If you really want peace [98 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Sep 29, 2009 05:07
↔Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi - In the Name of the Eternal, Those of Us Who Follow Him Do so Out of His Love - In Obedience to HIM [180 words] M. Tovey Sep 29, 2009 19:18
↔I apologise to you Mr. tovey [990 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Oct 1, 2009 01:24
↔Accepted [160 words] M. Tovey Oct 6, 2009 19:46
↔Has somebody analyzed the facts here? [100 words] Faisal A. Khan Oct 15, 2009 04:02
↔Faisal Khan: Humans are not beasts but Allah's most important creation [572 words] Plato柏拉图 Oct 19, 2009 07:35
Pipes Logic
[w/response] [28 words] Ghulam Muhammed, Mumbai Sep 2, 2009 06:25
↔Cars and Burqas [16 words] Ghulam Muhammed, Mumbai Sep 28, 2009 02:56
↔When will we have peace? [50 words] Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi Sep 29, 2009 05:33
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